Re: Re: Re: Re: Good site...some bad seeds
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) on Tue Mar 18 21:01:28 2003
I have been involved with MLB as a coach and player for a long time. I was referred to this sight about a month ago by a friend who has a kid in high school baseball, who said the site re-enforces some of my hitting principles. Jack, this is a great site, and you should keep up the good work.
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> > > > I have watched for the last month with interest some of the debate that goes on. I am interested in what Mr. Ziegler and his system can do. I spoke with Dave Hudgens and he is a firm believer in your technology, and what it can do for any athlete, including pitchers. We have used House and even sent athletes to ASMI. Your system comes to field, and you test the athletes right there. That is a big help.
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> > > > I am posting now because, after speaking with Dave, I think you are getting the shaft a little bit here. You guys have go something every coach should have... According to Dave, your system provided more information about that athlete than a coach could imagine, and took away the guess work. He did say it is helpful for you or someone to explain the report a little more, but he understands it and can now interpret it for himself. Is asked him if the four sensors and no arms or legs made him wonder what else was happening, and he said at the early stage of the evaluation, it gives the athlete too much to look at. It would be helpful with Tejada or A-Rod, or Barry, but there is enough in the analysis you gave him.
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> > > > I assume that the coaches out there who are bashing you are some of the best coaches in the game and constantly produce MLB quality high school or college players. From the posts, I have read perhaps some of them would be better served trying to find a way to help their athletes make the improvements they need. I am not sure if others who have very little to say are even coaches at all and instead are parents who are followers and have not yet been convinced that your technology works.
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> > > > Keep up the good work, Zig. I look forward to seeing you this week at camp.
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> > > Maybe you are a MLB coach. Who knows. What are your beliefs about hitting?
> > Yes, who are you? As you know the internet is an anonymous place. Anyone can claim anything.
> > by the way, there is a difference between bashing and questioning.
> > Zig has been questioned repeatedly about the underlying swing assumptions his program is based on and always comes back to the data being firm facts. No answer to the real question however.
> > And others, like O'Really, have taken him to task in detail over his statements and the fact that his technology is not unique and has existed in the field for years.
> > Nobody questions the value of good data from a true biofeedback source.
> > It is all the other questions that keep arising and not being answered.
> > Your post could be genuine, but it also could be a carefully placed 'advertisement' to lend credibility from a MLB source.
> > Why don't you give us your hitting principles, etc. Share your knowledge with us who aren't MLB coaches.
> I have a feeling that whatever knowledge he shares, someone would find a reason to bash him. At least that's what has happened in the past. A handful of "experts" who's only knowledge of the game is from playing Nintendo games has the nerve of bashing anyone who is in disagreement with the party line.
I've found the quickest way to irritate most hitting experts is to keep asking them questions pertaining to whatever doesn't seem to be clear about their theories/teachings. Some will just call you a trouble maker and walk away. Others such as Mankin and Nyman will meet any question or challenge. I figure these types are the ones with confidence and an open mind.
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