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Re: Re: Good site...some bad seeds


Posted by: rql () on Wed Mar 19 06:40:54 2003


I have been involved with MLB as a coach and player for a long time. I was referred to this sight about a month ago by a friend who has a kid in high school baseball, who said the site re-enforces some of my hitting principles. Jack, this is a great site, and you should keep up the good work.
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> > I have watched for the last month with interest some of the debate that goes on. I am interested in what Mr. Ziegler and his system can do. I spoke with Dave Hudgens and he is a firm believer in your technology, and what it can do for any athlete, including pitchers. We have used House and even sent athletes to ASMI. Your system comes to field, and you test the athletes right there. That is a big help.
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> > I am posting now because, after speaking with Dave, I think you are getting the shaft a little bit here. You guys have go something every coach should have... According to Dave, your system provided more information about that athlete than a coach could imagine, and took away the guess work. He did say it is helpful for you or someone to explain the report a little more, but he understands it and can now interpret it for himself. Is asked him if the four sensors and no arms or legs made him wonder what else was happening, and he said at the early stage of the evaluation, it gives the athlete too much to look at. It would be helpful with Tejada or A-Rod, or Barry, but there is enough in the analysis you gave him.
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> > I assume that the coaches out there who are bashing you are some of the best coaches in the game and constantly produce MLB quality high school or college players. From the posts, I have read perhaps some of them would be better served trying to find a way to help their athletes make the improvements they need. I am not sure if others who have very little to say are even coaches at all and instead are parents who are followers and have not yet been convinced that your technology works.
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> > Keep up the good work, Zig. I look forward to seeing you this week at camp.
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> Let me get this straight. Are you saying because Dave Hudgens believes in what Zig is doing, that it must be right? As far as hitting mechanics are concerned Dave Hudgeons wouldn't agree with most of what is written on this site. Yet you endorce Jack also.
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> Is this just a "lets eveyone get along campaign"? Lets look at all the data and feel good?
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> I can't believe Zig's data will reinforce both Hudgeons and Jack's hitting philosphies. And, if it does, it would seem to me the data is useless or misinterpreted. I've never heard Jack talk about hitting against a firm front side and keeping the lead shoulder closed as long as possible, which is a sample of Hudgeons beliefs.
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> How can it support both philosophies?
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> > "Ive never heard jack say hit against a firm front side or keep your lead shoulder in as long as you can."Interpretation,actually this is just what I see in rotational hitting.Swinging and hitting are at 2 different points in time and at point of contact which is hitting I see a firm front side with lead leg straight.Also I teach to keep front shoulder in as long as possible as you load until it is time to rotate it out.


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