Bat Speed -- Baseball Hitting Forum

Posted by: Marv () on Wed Oct 20 19:16:05 2004

>>> I can define it........I'm just not going to give it to you.
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> > Setpro.com <<<
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> > Hi Teacherman
> >
> > If you do have the knowledge and ability to define the term and are truly interested in advancing coaches’ and players’ understanding of the baseball swing, one can only speculate your reasons for keeping a clear definition of “bow-arch” behind closed doors.
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> > Jack Mankin
> >
>
> >> I have just spent the last three hours reading many, many posts on "setpro.com", and I must say I am appalled at the commentary provided by the "experts" on on what appears to be two sides (or more) on the issue of creating bat speed. I am here for only one thing... to help my son get the most he can out of his swing. I don't care what you call the various mechanics of the swing or even if two body vector mechanics closely approximates a swing or not (and yes, I too have an electrical engineering degree and design control systems). All I care about is understanding the steps involved in creating a powerful swing and being able to translate that into language that my son can understand and execute. If all of you guys can't get off your high horses and explain the concepts in terms that we can understand then everything you are doing will be for naught because no one will listen (even if they understand). Whether Jack's terms are correct or not, or even whether this theories are right or not, I cannot argue since I simply don't know enough. But I do know what I see, and I see my son incorporating elements of Jack's concepts in his swing and getting great results. Time will tell, but all of you (Paul, Brain, "teacherman", Jack, etc.) really need to understand the concept of "who is the customer"... and that's me and people like me that are looking for answers.
>
> Thanks,
> Jerry
What is good and yet ironic is that at setpro they show a lot of clips of major leaguers, analyze them to death, call what thet see "scap loading", "flail" and everyting else under the son, yet what they see and proove is exactly what Jack has been talking about, top hand torque. Maybe if batspeed.com and setpro.com could come to an agreement: call it what it is, top hand torque we could move on. Teacherman, would you agree to that?

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> >>> I can define it........I'm just not going to give it to you. 
> > > 
> > > Setpro.com <<<
> > > 
> > > Hi Teacherman
> > > 
> > > If you do have the knowledge and ability to define the term and are truly interested in advancing coaches’ and players’ understanding of the baseball swing, one can only speculate your reasons for keeping a clear definition of “bow-arch”  behind closed doors. 
> > > 
> > > Jack Mankin 
> > > 
> > 
> > >> I have just spent the last three hours reading many, many posts on "setpro.com", and I must say I am appalled at the commentary provided by the "experts" on on what appears to be two sides (or more) on the issue of creating bat speed. I am here for only one thing... to help my son get the most he can out of his swing.  I don't care what you call the various mechanics of the swing or even if two body vector mechanics closely approximates a swing or not (and yes, I too have an electrical engineering degree and design control systems).  All I care about is understanding the steps involved in creating a powerful swing and being able to translate that into language that my son can understand and execute.  If all of you guys can't get off your high horses and explain the concepts in terms that we can understand then everything you are doing will be for naught because no one will listen (even if they understand).  Whether Jack's terms are correct or not, or even whether this theories are right or not, I cannot argue since I simply don't know enough.  But I do know what I see, and I see my son incorporating elements of Jack's concepts in his swing and getting great results.  Time will tell, but all of you (Paul, Brain, "teacherman", Jack, etc.) really need to understand the concept of "who is the customer"... and that's me and people like me that are looking for answers.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jerry
> What is good and yet ironic is that at setpro they show a lot of clips of major leaguers, analyze them to death, call what thet see "scap loading", "flail" and everyting else under the son, yet what they see and proove is exactly what Jack has been talking about, top hand torque. Maybe if batspeed.com and setpro.com could come to an agreement: call it what it is, top hand torque we could move on. Teacherman, would you agree to that?

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