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Re: CHP cues


Posted by: rql () on Tue Jul 1 20:38:18 2008


> Hi All
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> This past month I have analyzing the swings of a good number of MLB hitters who are performing well below their normal numbers. In almost every case, the problem can be traced back to their initiation mechanics. I more I study, the more convinced I become that understanding a Bio-Mechanical principle I have posted here before is an absolute key to developing or teaching efficient swing mechanics.
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> The principle states: “A ballistic motion, once initiated, produces trajectories that can only be changed at its’ margins.” – This means that the forces (and the direction of those forces) applied through the hands and arms to the bat during initiation, produces trajectories of the torso, limbs and bat that can be only be efficiently altered at the margins for the balance of the swing.
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> Other than applying torque at the handle, the other force during initiation that generates the angular acceleration of the bat-head is the “Pendulum Effect” induced from the CHP. The most efficient CHP occurs when the batter keeps his hands back and allows the rotation of his shoulders to swing the hands around the swing plane. I would also add that if the batter has the wrong vision of how the swing should be initiated, the chances of him applying the most efficient forces are greatly reduced.
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> As I alluded to above, the pendulum effect is maximized during initiation when the hands are accelerated into a circular path. This means that from their launch position (hands at the top of the circle), the direction of the hands should not be extending back toward the pitcher. Rather, the first movement of the hands should be perpendicular to (or directed across) the flight of the incoming ball. As the swing progresses, the rotation of the shoulders will pull the lead-arm and hands around so that by contact the direction of the hands will be more toward the pitcher. But that is not the direction they should directed at during initiation
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> The problem is, I can think of no batting cue available to coaches that would encourage the batter to direct the first movement of the hands perpendicular to the ball. The “Keep your hands inside the ball” cue certainly will not. Whenever I ask a coach or player to demonstrate keeping the hands inside the ball, they all exhibit a straighter path that takes their hands across their body. That hand-path induces little pendulum effect and places the batter behind the power curve right from initiation.
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> Below are a couple more posts from the Archives I wote on this topic.
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> <a href="http://www.batspeed.com/messageboard/4788.html">staying inside the ball</a --
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> <a href="http://www.batspeed.com/messageboard/9979.html">Inside the Ball Question</a --
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> Jack Mankin

Jack often the written word is hard to see,what exactly is the hands extended back toward the pitcher mean for a visualization,what is the top of the circle.Do you mean the point when the hands first start to move after being pointed back and down toward the catcher in the load.I agree with the knob going perpendicular absolutely,can you name or post pics of these guys not doing this,seeing the wrong can be just as beneficial as seeing the right way,anyways i have been thinking about posting on the stay inside the ball,and though I can interpret positively while doing rotational,I dont think my way is the way it was intended.My thoughts were instead of focusing on keeping the hands inside the ball,the cue of putting the barrel on the back of the ball seemed to be a better way to image the swing.the goal is to quickly get the barrel square on the ball,and if you train to acquire proper mechanics and the foundation or initiation of the swing is paramount just like a footer in constructing a building,then you can put all that out of your mind when things are good and focus on just putting the barrel on the back of the ball,by doing this the hands will stay inside the ball though they will adjust to in and out locations the hands should be on autopilot along with the rhythm of the swing to adjust the barrel in or out to the back of the ball.The degree of back of the ball can be discussed my thoughts are to strive for 530 to 630 if using the clock method with 6 oclock being the back of the ball which is facing the catcher and 12 oclock facing the pitcher,when we start hitting 4oclock on the ball[lefty] we get bat drag and 8oclock would be hitting around the ball,which to me is what hands inside the ball is suppose to prevent,so barrel to the back of the ball is the cue I am trying to play with ,your thoughts.


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