Posted by: Jack Mankin (MrBatspeed@aol.com) on Tue Jun 27 08:13:32 2006

>>> Jack,

Your talking about 1st ballot hall of famers (Ruth, Williams, Mantle, Brett, Musial, Bonds, Pujols)…The FACT is, less then 2% of all MLB players will ever make it to the Hall, of the list you threw out there now were talking about the ultra ultra elite, amongst the elite…for every hitter you mention, there are probably 5 players actually IN the hall of fame that don’t come close to those guys (statically speaking).

Hitting is hard… there’s a reason Barry and A-rod make millions, there are only a select few on the planet that can consistently achieve at this task…some might disagree with the a-rod suggestion. For every Barry and Mantel and Marris there is a hall of famer like Ray Schalk, a lifetime .253 who hit 11 HR’s 11 seasons! This guys in the HALL! How about these guys…Bat speed does not equill Hall of Fame...

Roger Bresnahan, lifetime .279, 26 HR’s in 18 seasons

Buck Ewing, .311, 71 HR’s in 15 seasons.

Rick Ferrell , - hit .281. 18 years, 28 HR’s

Ernie Lombardi, - 17-year career, .306, hit .300 or better 10 times. 16 years, 190 HR’s.

Mickey Cochrane batted .320 during his 13-year career, 119 Hr’s.

Eddie Collins played 25 seasons in the major leagues, 47 HR’s, .333 B.A.

Johnny Evers, 18 years, .270 BA, 12 HR’s.

Billy Herman, 15 seasons 47 HR’s, .304

Bid McPhee, 17 season, 53 Hr’s, .281 BA.

Rod Carew hit over .300 in 15 consecutive seasons, achieving a .328 B.A., 92 HR’s in 18 season, never more then 14, twice. <<<

Hi Scott

This has been a good discussion. The mission of this board is to give the reader different perspectives on a topic for them to form their own conclusions. I think we have accomplished that.

Jack Mankin