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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: No Such Thing

Posted by: rql () on Mon Sep 14 14:09:49 2009

> I have been reviewing the debate and the examples used on this site describing rotational hitting. I agree with south, that the rotational and linear hitting are not independent but a good swing uses a combination of the two. My physics is a little rusty, so my questions will be in laymen terms. 1st, if you drive the bat down towards the catcher to start the swing, then you have to redirect the bat to the ball, how is this going to increase bat speed, and would this not encourage more pop-ups and fly balls? why not just lay the bat back like Ripkin did and take the first step out. 2nd it my experience with hitting (18 yrs worth), if you rotate your shoulders with your hips you have the tendency to pull off the ball, now jerry stated that there is less shoulder rotation when hitting an outside pitch, how do you teach high school kids this. Are the majority of baseball players, at any age, going to have the ability to recognize what location the pitch is going to be quick enough to decide how much shoulder rotation is envolved, and if you teach them to reach across there body to hit the outside pitch, would this not encourage casting their hands(getting them too far away from the body)creating a longer slower swing?. When i watch todays big time hitters a few pop out, Pujols (arguably the best hitter in baseball at this time) stays close until the last possible moment. At contact he then explodes through the ball with shoulders and hips working together to provide power. He also drives the knob of the bat directly to the ball. Which method is he using? His swing is short and compact at impact, then it gets long as he hits through the ball. Josh Hamilton has one of the prettiest swings in the game, he also hits for power and average. While watching the espn baseball experts break down his swing, i noticed that his hips and shoulders start the swing, in doing so the two bring his hands into the hitting zone. From there he drives the knob to the ball then throws the bat head to the ball, then drives through it. If you swing with hips and shoulders only, your swing will be longer, thus making the batter swing sooner on faster pitching. would this not cause that batter to be susceptible to a change-up? if he is out front with his hips and shoulders already through the zone, how does he keep his hands back to hit off speed pitches? what do the hands do and when in rotational hitting? Also, are you giving up bat control for a little more bat speed? which is more inportant, putting the ball in play consistanly, or hitting it a little harder with a less amount of balls being put into play? I have always been told the quickest way somewhere is a straight line, so how does takning your hands from the starting point(point A) dropping the bat head(point B), then taking the bat to the contact point(point C) increase bat speed. Im not arguing, just curious.

gamer,the circular motion of the bat,brings it around faster with more bat speed.this is how Ml hitters swingthe bat, from the beginning it is set on a plane,like a frisbee around the body it gets in this plane early and stays there,no redirecting,if you rotate your hips properly with a connected shoulder rotation and add great timing and eyesight you may have the basis of a ML swing,not pull off the ball.Dont teach less rotation teach them with a tee contact points for away vs inside locations,show them the adjustment the arms make for the away vs inside pitch and which pitch they look for 1st then which to adjust to.If you can do that for them I can then show drills to teach how to adjust on the fly.The only reason that pujols explodes thru the ball at contact is that is the point the ball shows up [contact]cant explode thru it any other time.Now the important point,he starts exploding at swing initiation not contact,his swing is at maximum batspeed at contact not a foot before or a foot after.the ball is in contact with the ball for such a very short distance and gone exploding thru the ball is really mute,just part of the decelarating process.I can promise you his knob does not get driven right at the ball even if God himself says so.
Here is an idea I heard I like,put a pingpong ball on the table and flick it with your finger,it will fly off the table,now flick the pingpong paddle and see how far it goes,no where.If you swung a wiffle ball bat straight may work ok,but you cant lay your bat back toward the catcher and swing knob right to ball and snap your wrists,the wood bat will have no batspeed.


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