Posted by: Joe A. () on Sat Sep 29 05:13:40 2001

>>> Are you saying that pushing the bat away from the pitcher by straintening the forward arm backward and turning the shoulders away from the pitcher does not make the swing longer?
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> This is not longer then not straightening the foward arm and turning the shoulders away from the pitcher?
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> Are you saying that if the hitter does not push the bat away from the pitcher and keepoing the shoulders square to the plate is not a shorter and therefore quicker swing.

Jack,

You have an unfortunate habit of using terms such as "
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> For comparison purposes we must assume that the two different swings are being performed by the same batter.
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> You are stating that one swing is NOT longer therefore takes more time then the other? <<<
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> Whether the batter “walks away from his hands” or has an “inward turn”, both the linear and rotational batter have their hands back near their back shoulder (or armpit) as they launch their swing. Linear extension mechanics by definition has the arms reach near full extension at contact. Rotational mechanics brings the bat to contact with the back-elbow still near the batter’s side (the “L” position) – a good 8 to 10 inches from full extension.
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> You tell me which is the longer swing.
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> I like asking you linear coaches a simple question; “As the hands are extending farther and farther out toward full extension – is the swing getting shorter and more compact?”
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> Jack Mankin

Jack,

You have a bad habit of using therms such as "the batter walks away from his hands or has in inward turn" that only you, or a very few people know what you are talking about.

(This was going to be one of my other points of error about the frame-by-frame-- language that is unclear. Even if YOU know what you are talking about, if you want to be a teacher, you have to be understood. It is the speaker's job to be understood, not the listeners job to understand. If you make it the lister's job to understand you can speak in a forgin language and think you are teaching, but your not.)

I asked a simple question that seems to require a yes or no answer. Between these two swings does one take less time or not?

1. A swing in which the batter takes a stance then in preparation to swing straightens forward arm (pushing it backward) from its position in the stance AND turns his shoulders away from the pitcher. These mechanics are described in the fram-by-frame.

2. Or a swing in which case the batter takes a stance with shoulders square to the plate with hands at or near the arm pit and without pushing the hands back or turning shoulders away from the pitcher, level the bat to about a 45 degree angel and launch the swing from that position.

Is not #1 longer then #2 and therefore takes more time??

Its a simple question.

Joe A.




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