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Posted by: grc () on Wed May 22 07:05:32 2002

P.S. I should have mentioned that in this swing, the wrists never break or roll or anything. The bat ends up behind my right hip (I'm a lefty), with the palm of my bottom hand still facing down the same way it was at the beginning of the swing, and the bat-head facing straight out the side.
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> > > There is no question that for me, this is by far the most powerful way to hit a ball. I just haven't been able to duplicate these "mechanics" as a general process, in all areas of the strike zone.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> >
> > This swing is likely to be the quickest/fastest/most powerful.Torso turn is maximal and continues through contact.The handpath hooks due to shortening of front arm with maintenance of good connection.It requires using mostly the front side scapula/back muscles to accomplish this shortening.Don't shorten by using arm muscles to flex elbow.Relative quickening of handpath by hooking relatively delays bathead swinging out,keeping ball fair and hit on upswing with plenty of elevation.History is made on the inside of the plate.
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> > See Piazza do it-
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> > http://www.setpro.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000507.html
> Tom, steve
> I don't believe batspeed is highest when the handpath is shortened, obviously it is quicker, but I believe the swing is most powerful the farther the bathead is from the center of rotation at maximum rotation speed, "i'm sure you've read that from the best of max at setpro" Extension is difficult to achieve, such as the extension Big Mac was able to obtain.
> The Hitman

tom.....besides the other differences between kack & epstein that i pointed out in that discussion below (and i was disappointed that you did not respond to my comments), it seems that the issue of the bent elbow is another difference between jack & epstein (not that i think either of them are always right).....
it seems like one of your primary reasons for subscribing to epstein's bent elbow/fence drill/tight path is your concern (and epstein's) for keeping the ball fair....can't this goal be accomplished simply by having a closed stance? (or more importantly, landing closed)?....

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> P.S. I should have mentioned that in this swing, the wrists never break or roll or anything. The bat ends up behind my right hip (I'm a lefty), with the palm of my bottom hand still facing down the same way it was at the beginning of the swing, and the bat-head facing straight out the side.
> > > > 
> > > > There is no question that for me, this is by far the most powerful way to hit a ball. I just haven't been able to duplicate these "mechanics" as a general process, in all areas of the strike zone.
> > > > 
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > 
> > > This swing is likely to be the quickest/fastest/most powerful.Torso turn is maximal and continues through contact.The handpath hooks due to shortening of front arm with maintenance of good connection.It requires using mostly the front side scapula/back muscles to accomplish this shortening.Don't shorten by using arm muscles to flex elbow.Relative quickening of handpath by hooking relatively delays bathead swinging out,keeping ball fair and hit on upswing with plenty of elevation.History is made on the inside of the plate.
> > > 
> > > See Piazza do it-
> > > 
> > > http://www.setpro.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000507.html
> > Tom, steve
> > I don't believe batspeed is highest when the handpath is shortened, obviously it is quicker, but I believe the swing is most powerful the farther the bathead is from the center of rotation at maximum rotation speed, "i'm sure you've read that from the best of max at setpro" Extension is difficult to achieve, such as the extension Big Mac was able to obtain.   
> > The Hitman
> 
> tom.....besides the other differences between kack & epstein that i pointed out in that discussion below (and i was disappointed that you did not respond to my comments), it seems that the issue of the bent elbow is another difference between jack & epstein (not that i think either of them are always right).....
> it seems like one of your primary reasons for subscribing to epstein's bent elbow/fence drill/tight path is your concern (and epstein's) for keeping the ball fair....can't this goal be accomplished simply by having a closed stance? (or more importantly, landing closed)?....

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