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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Conflict


Posted by: Frank Jessup () on Thu Jul 4 17:38:40 2002


I went to the article at beabetter.com.In part the author said "a short swing must be a straight line from launch position (hit position) to contact point."
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> > > > > > > This seems to conflict with a lot of the stuff at this site. The author is Rick down, hitting coach of the New York Yankees. How many times have they been World Champions the last several years?
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> > > > > > Valid question. Which Yankee hitters would you point to as examples of this straight line (linear) hitting? Must be at least several if the hitting coach is teaching this wouldn't you think? I have lots of good clips of rotational hitters but I can't seem to find clips of linear hitters so I look forward to your examples.
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> > > > > You miss the point.
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> > > > Sorry. I'm getting older. Help me out. What did I miss?
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> > > I understood your point to be "if the Yankees hitting coach says one thing and Jack says another, shouldn't we believe the Yankees hitting coach?" If this was not your point then, yes, I missed it. My point is, if the Yankees hitting coach is teaching this, and if it really works, then surely we can pick out several top Yankees who are doing this. I'm not saying you are right or wrong. I am, however, looking forward to seeing linear Yankee hitters on clips. Personally, I thought Jack, Tom and company were full of it when I first started reading about these ideas. Now that I have come across to the dark side (rotational hitting), if linear hitting is really the right way, I wish you or someone would 'splain it to me before I teach more kids the wrong thing. : )
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> > > It just seems like when the rotational advocates talk about their theories they have clips to back it up along with a coherent unified, complete description of the swing that meshes with what the human body actually does and is. Now if I've been hoodwinked and bamboozled by these snake oil salesmen, then please, show me.
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> > You have clips, I have clips, the pros have clips.(Funny thing, though, you never SHOW your clips).
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> Here's one. http://www.setpro.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000538.html
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> But pros have something that apparently you do not have and that is BASEBALL EXPERIENCE.
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> And I study them at every opportunity. Including what they do rather than just what they say.
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> You see, there is a difference in looking at a clip and reading into it what you want it to look like,
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> Actually, I was dragged kicking and screaming to these conclusions so I certainly didn't want to read these things into it. But in terms of mis interpretation of clips, you may have a point. Show me. I'm not challenging you so much as I really would like to hear your thoughts and explanations in detail. Nothing livens up this forum like a dissenter and Jack is good enough to let the conversation happen even when someone is calling him wrong. That shows a certain confidence, don't you think?
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> and in actually having been in the batters box. Again, outside of your small circle, who promotes your theories?
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> In terms of straight hand path versus circular hand path? As far as talking about it we could, as I said, start with Ted. As far as doing it, ever watch Bagwell or Bonds or...I"ll tell you what. Watch the first tape of Epstein's if you want to see slo mo clips of great hitters from yesterday and today demonstrating the use of rotational hip first, tight connection, circular handpath mechanics.

Maury,

Below there is a thread with the subject "Slump." In that thread is a post by Joe A. dated July 4th. In it Joe A. comments on articles published on a web site by your Yankee hitting coach. Read it and learn something.

F. J.


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