Posted by: The Hitman (ahsnumber3@aol.com) on Sat Aug 24 16:38:40 2002

>>> He needs to work on his hip rotation to specifically get the front leg and hip involved. What tends to happen is the fron leg and hip are used as a pivot point and the back leg and hip do all the work to push the hips around. Have him think that the front leg and hip also need to pull the hips around. A good example would be if you were to put your hands on his hips and rotated them you would have to push forward to make his back hip come around and at the same time pull backward to make his front hip come around (by the way this is another example of using torque in the swing). For your son to duplicate these movements he is not going to be able to bend the knee because he is going to have to use the front leg to push his front hip back and around. <<<
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> > > > > > > Thank you for offering to help Phil son’s with his batting problem. Your intentions and advise were sound. I am saddened by the spiteful responses you and others endure from a few persons who seem more interested in being hurtful than discussing differing viewpoints. Although we have many thousands coming to the site, it does seem sad that it can be tarnished by so few.
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> > > > > > > But, Alan, keep in mind that for every one of those ill-mannered posters, there are thousands of readers who want and appreciate your input. --- So once again, I thank you for taking the time to give us your thoughts.
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> > > > > > Thanks for you support and I know you understand where I'm coming from. It is just too bad that kid will never be able to try to correct that one component of his swing, which could eliminate a problem he seems to have.
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> > > > > > Rotational mechanics are very difficult for some people to grasp, because they are different from what they know. What constantly amazes me is the batters I've worked with have had dramatic improvements, yet when you begin to explain rotational mechanics to their team coaches they just can't believe that this would work. Go figure.
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> > > > > Jack, I'm not sure what you mean by "ill-mannered posters", but since i was the one who asked the original question I will say that Bart is the one who understood the question and answered it to my satisfaction.
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> > > > Having read through this thread, am I the only one who smells something fishy here? Looks like a put up deal IMO. I don't think everything is as represented. In any case, I hope to remember my mental note to avoid trying to help Phil or Bart. If in fact they are two people, or at least two people who aren't colluding. Alan, remember, "no good deed goes unpunished". ; )
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> > > Mark: thank you for avoiding helping me, not that I asked for your help.
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> > No thanks necessary. Purely a lack of appetite for abuse given to those who try to help but don't meet your approval.
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> > By the way, are you and Major Dan the same person? Seems like you and him have this thing about Frank , Joe, Charlie and others being the same person.
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> > > And why would people be upset that Bart could identify a problem & solution but Alan couldn't?
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> > Not too sure Bart really put his finger on it. But that's OK. Maybe he's right. My problem is the attitude and lack of civility that was served along with the advice. Seems to me I'm not the one intolerant of baseball advice I don't agree with.
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> > If the rules of this site dictate that one person's advice is more important than another person's, why don't you just spell out the rules?
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> > Civil manners coming from good training as a youth. Usually by one's parents. These are society's rules not this site's, although they seem to be, sad to say, not as much in vogue as they used to be. Does that spell it out with sufficient clarity? Actually, this site is, if anything, overly tolerant of poor manners while being admirably tolerant of opposing viewpoints.
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> > > So long, Mark ( or are you really Major Dan?)
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> > Nope, been around for awhile. And if you've been here for awhile, you would know that I don't land on anyone unless they act rudely, generally to someone else.
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> All I can say, Major Dan is that it seems like you are picking fights with quite a few people at this site. You don't have anything else better to do?
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> > Mark H.

Phil, Bart and rest of board.
I think we should just close the book on this post, and all come to the conclusion that Phil and Bart and real arrogant pricks
The Hitman