Posted by: Major Dan (markj89@charter.net) on Mon Apr 9 09:50:49 2001

>>> Jack,Just some comments and observations from this thread.The wrist thing I tried I thought I had good movement in my wrist and could snap the bat,,the idea of the torque of 1 hand and the little finger and thumb I agree with but I can do the same with 2,if my hands are in front of me and the barrel is pointed at the catcher I can snap my wrists and point it at the pitcher,that's 180degrees.<<<
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> > Hi rql
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> > The fact that you could attain 180 degrees of bat rotation should tell you something. The range of movement of a single wrist on that plane is only around 90 degrees. With both hands on the bat the range of wrist movement is less than half of that. So most of the 180 degrees you attained come from the push-pull motion of your forearms with wrist action playing a much smaller role. --- So once again, restrict your forearms from moving by placing your elbows on a table and I think you will see that your wrist action is more restricted with two hands on the bat than you may have thought.
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> > Jack Mankin
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> > Jack,maybe I'm doing it wrong but I'm getting about135 degrees on the table with the elbows.This is not my big issue however,whether its forearms or wrists or a combination of both along the way,can the forearms be assisting the rotation of the shoulders helping them to accelerate.Or maybe they are influential in the torque of the bat and their strength can help torque which speeds up the bat and is the reason for all the talk about the hands from great hitters.

RQL and Jack -
I'm not sure if this is too off the subject, but what do you think the effect is of splitting the grip - separating the hands by an inch or two? I seem to get more leverage/torque from forearms/wrists when I move the bat around with a split grip, but it doesn't translate into a full swing as well.