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Re:Confusion/heavy bag drill

Posted by: Jack Mankin (MrBatspeed@aol.com) on Wed Jul 27 13:29:02 2005

>>> Jack, the drill of hitting a basketball as you have said should not be confused with hitting a heavy bag from a results standpoint. Hitting a basketball, and only should be done from off a tee, should result in giving the hitter stronger hands, wrists and arms.
When a pitcher throwing relatively hard to a hitter who has not developed sufficient strength in their hands and wrists the bat will "spring" backward at point of contact for an instant then go forward with follow through.
Hitting a basketball off a tee is one way to develop hand and wrist strength so that the bat will not deflect backward at contact. <<<

Hi Gev

I am bringing your July 18th post to the top because many other coaches may hold your views. You stated, “Hitting a basketball off a tee is one way to develop hand and wrist strength so that the bat will not deflect backward at contact.” – At one time I also believed the batter’s hand and arm strength at contact would could drive the bat through the bat/ball collision for greater ball exit speed. However, I have read test results from a number of bat companies that have changed my mind.

These tests prove that forces applied by the hands to the bat handle at contact have no effect on how hard a ball is hit. Dr. Kettering’s Web Site ( http://www.kettering.edu ) has many articles regarding the bat/ball collision. I suggest you read -- http://www.kettering.edu/~drussell/bats-new/grip.html The paragraph below summarizes his findings.

“The data in the figure below shows the combined results of all three tests (two pivots, free-free, and swing-hit). The fact that all of the data points appear to fall on a straight line indicates that grip conditions have absolutely no affect on batted-ball speed. If grip did affect performance, then we would expect to see three or four straight lines, one for each data set. Koenig's results, however, show that there is no noticeable difference in the performance of a bat which is clamped in pivot, free-free, or gripped with the hands and swung by a player.”

Below is the post I wrote regarding the problems to the swing incurred from hitting deflated basketballs.

Jack Mankin

Confusion/heavy bag drill

Posted by: Jack Mankin (MrBatspeed@aol.com) on Thu Jun 21 20:16:08 2001

<u>Jack Mankin's comment:</u>

Hi All:

I have noticed from reading posts on other forums that there is some confusion regarding the "heavy bag drill." Many coaches seem to think the batter attempts to develop a more powerful swing by driving through the bag or causing the bag to move or swing. These coaches equate hitting the heavy bag to that of hitting deflated basketballs or similar objects, but nothing could be farther from the truth. The principles to be learned from the heavy bag drills are completely opposite to mechanics developed from swinging at tossed deflated basketballs.

The concepts surrounding the "follow-through" or coast-out phase of the swing have long been misunderstood. Coaches have been taught that to hit the ball hard the batter must continue to drive through the ball well after contact. So it is quite understandable why many coaches would adopt drills that would require the batter to continue "pushing" the bat through the follow-through phase. For example, to propel a deflated basketball forward would require that the basketball remain in contact with the bat for an extended time where the bat could move forward 8 or more inches after the initial contact. Swinging at deflated basketballs would definitely require that the batter continue applying energy to the bat well after contact.

Hitting a baseball is a very different story. The baseball is only in contact with the bat for approximately 1/2000 of a second and the bat moves forward less than 3/4 of an inch. Therefore, any energy applied to the bat after contact has NO effect on the ball's flight and is wasted energy. Good transfer mechanics will deplete all bat speed-generating energy prior to, or by contact. This is a major difference between average hitters and great hitters. The mechanics of most average hitters develops bat speed much later in the swing. These hitters continue applying forces to the bat well after passing the optimum contact point. That is why they have little power to the opposite field and many of their better-hit balls are pulled foul.

The purpose of using a heavy bag to absorb the bat's energy at the contact point is to train the batter to expend all bat speed-generating energy (rotational and torque) prior to or by contact. Good transfer mechanics and timing will have the batter depleting his rotational and torque energy as the bat-head reaches maximum velocity. -- Stated another way, all the energy has been sucked out of the system as maximum bat speed is reached.

Therefore, after all of the body's energy has been transferred into bat speed, the body and limb muscles are at rest. The hip and shoulder rotation is complete -- lead-arm pull and back-forearm lowering to horizontal (the "L" position) is complete -- the hand-path has slowed to a stop -- there is NO energy being applied to the bat -- the bat's energy has been expended into the heavy bag -- all motion has ceased -- all muscles are relaxed. Thus, you now have a frozen frame of the batter’s mechanics at contact.

This is not the case with weaker hitters. Improper initiation of the swing (for example, thrusting the top-hand forward) quickly places the batter behind the power curve and he or she is left trying to develop bat speed after the bat reaches contact. Striking the heavy bag with tense arms that are still driving forward can cause discomfort to the hands and wrists. I would advise taking it easy until the batters' transfer mechanics improve.

I think you can now see that the mechanics developed while swinging at deflated basketballs are quite different than those used in the heavy bag drill. A batter’s progress will be slowed when hitting any object that requires the batter to reserve energy for a powerful follow-through. In a good swing, the bat's momentum will pull the body and limbs through the coast-out phase of the swing, not reserved energy.

Jack Mankin


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